Monday, January 20, 2020

Jor-El Vs. Kang



I can't imagine that Marvel Studios wants to go with another time travel plot line any time soon after that was such a major part of Avengers: Endgame. Still, they finally have the rights to use Kang, and he is just too good a villain to leave on the shelf.  Where would the best place be for him to show up? He'll definitely come in handy if Chris Evans or Robert Downey Jr. ever change their minds about returning to the MCU!

24 comments:

det_Tobor said...

I wanted to add in the 70s, a NY comic con was moved to a different hotel than the one advertised. I got to a cab to go to the new place only to find it in use by Mr Giordano. He invited me to ride along with him. When we got there, he paid for the ride. He was a real gentleman.

det_Tobor said...

How about Kang and Brainiac together?

Carycomic said...

If I were CEO of Marvel Films, I'd just do what was originally done in the comics. Introduce him as Pharoah Rama-Tut in the next FF sequel!

Sonofjack said...

The Steve Englehart run on The Avengers is still my all-time favorite so, yes, I would LOVE to see Kang make it to the MCU. They could tie it in to Endgame by saying that all the time traveling the Avengers did brought them to Kang's attention. Kang could summon forth champions from various eras to challenge the Avengers. This could lead to all sorts of cool cameos from Marvel's past (Two-Gun Kid, the original Black Knight) and future (Spider-Man 2099). I would love to see Kang summon the Frankenstein Monster like he did in the original Legion of the Unliving story, but that could get kind of dicey.

Daviticus said...

I like det_Tobor's idea. Maybe for tomorrow's cover? ;)

Ivan said...

When I first saw just the logos, I was halfway hoping that Kang would be the Rigellian from The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodes.

Bob Greenwade said...

I've heard at least one fairly reliable source state that RDJ will be back in a Phase 4 MCU project, not counting What If...?. Which one is left to speculation, but my own guess is Loki (since that will apparently also feature trips to the past).

Sonofjack has my very thought: All this time traveling has attracted Kang's attention. If the costume is comics-accurate enough, they could even identify him as the same Kang that bothers the Earth-616 Avengers!

(I'm not clear on what would be "dicey" about using Frankenstein's Monster, though. There certainly would be no copyright issues, since he's in the public domain.)

And of course, if we're going to have Kang, we'd naturally have his other personas, including not only Rama-Tut but Immortus and probably Iron Lad as well.

And while Kang and Brainiac sounds cool, I think I'd like to see Kang in battle with a time-traveling villain who hasn't even appeared on the blog yet (or at least doesn't have a tag): the Time Trapper! (It might take a third-party source to keep them from "breaking time," such as some of the folks displayed as "Guest Stars" in #382!)

Sonofjack said...

What I meant when I wrote that using Frankenstein's Monster would be dicey is that the temptation of making him resemble the classic Universal version would be great. For most of the general population, that version IS the Frankenstein Monster. And while I know that the character is in the public domain, I believe that the classic Universal look is still trademarked and/or copyrighted. I know that there have been other versions of the Monster in various media over the years, but the Universal version is still the icon.

Jay Johnson said...

Along with the MU Kang and the Simpson's alien, add both the TOS and the DS9 versions of Kang the Klingon to the Council of Cross-Media Kangs.

Horsefeathers said...

KANG KANG KANG went the trolley.

Hyram H Horsefeathers II said...

Ross now that he's had the experience hows about meeting Spidy with Robin the ex boy wonder? or Rkbin and Tarzan?

Bob Greenwade said...

@Sonofjack: The "classic Universal look" for Frankenstein's Monster has been used too often by other creators to be Trademarked: Marvel, DC, Young Frankenstein, The Munsters... that's just for starters. I'm pretty sure I could find at least a half-dozen cartoons and other children's fare from the 20th century, especially the 60s and 70s, to say nothing of costumes still available from multiple manufacturers. If the look was ever Trademarked -- which I doubt -- it's long lost by now.

Sonofjack said...

Bob Greenwade,

https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2011/10/24/how-universal-re-copyrighted-frankensteins-monster/

The Munsters is owned by Universal.

Young Frankenstein is a parody and therefore protected under the "fair use" doctrine of copyrighted material. (The monster in Young Frankenstein had a zipper in his neck!)

But the important question is why are you making such a fuss over an off-handed comment I made? Do you scrutinize everyone's posts this carefully?

Bob Greenwade said...

Sonofjack: I just wanted to make sure that whichever one of us was mistaken could get things straight. Right now that appears to be me; I'll take a look at your link, and possibly learn something that I didn't know before (for which you'll have my thanks).

det_Tobor said...

Sonofjack said...
What I meant when I wrote that using Frankenstein's Monster would be dicey is that the temptation of making him resemble the classic Universal version would be great. For most of the general population, that version IS the Frankenstein Monster.
DC has been using their own version of Frankenstein Monster for many, many years. They also have their own version of the Bride.

det_Tobor said...

It's great seeing the real Jor-el from Earth 1's universe. Not any kind of fan of the recent movie version or the counterpart in the current Superman stories. Wish he could come back for more stories.

Carycomic said...

@Hyram: I think Spidey and Robin have already met here about 3 or 4x.

Hyram H Horsefeathers said...

@Carycomic, I'm talking about the ex boy wonder of earth #2

Anonymous said...

I think he's been permanently rendered out of Earth-STF continuity. No doubt the price he had to pay in order to defeat Kang back in Issue #1744. To say nothing of the two subsequent "Bat-tles" waged with Kang is Issues #2274 and #2390!

Carycomic said...

@Anonymous: I couldn't have put it better myself. :-)

Anonymous said...

Of course the MCU will conveniently tie-in the fact that former Nazi scientist Dr. Abraham Erskine invented the Super Soldier Serum from the notes of Victor Von Frankenstein's secret tissue regeneration formula that was responsible for giving the Monster life. It will be this same tissue regeneration that will restore Steve Rogers from his current temporary aging dilemma in the movies.

Jon Jermey said...

Kang plays a major role in the Marvel Lego Superheroes game, and adds a good deal of humour to it, with his voice booming out from speakers all over the conglomerate city he creates, Kangopolis (what else?). The acting is superb, with just the right mix of stern authority and slightly panicky disorganisation.

Horsefeathers said...

Well he's not all bad. He does like animals especially kang aroos.

Anonymous said...

How long was that one bouncing around in your head? ;-)

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