Thursday, November 9, 2023

Iron Man and Ice

 

There have been talks of having Robert Downey Jr. return to the role if Iron Man, along with other deceased or retired Avengers.  I know that Marvel Studios is in a slump now, but the way to correct things is to not saturate the market with sub-par product.  Hopefully they will go back to what worked in the first place - concentrating on a few movies and shows a year and maintaining close quality control.  To bring back characters that have already completed their arcs will smack of desperation unless it is really done well.

18 comments:

Detective Tobor said...

Agreed for the most part..but since Spidy and Doc Strange have used multi-universes, Marvel has a side door to enter with. New vesions of Iron Man or Cap who don't know anyone could be interesting. Look at how easy it was to change any of the X-Men.
Marvel would probably say they are not desperate, just frustrated. After they saw Barbie's numbers at the box office, they have to be careful to figure out their missteps and what they need to do to make things "right" for their company.

Anonymous said...

Plenty of people online say Tony was the glue that connected the MCU, and now that he's gone there's no one to fill that role hence they've been trying to find what sticks.

Personally I think the guys at Marvel Studios just didn't realize they needed a central character to bring everything together, or rather thought the conflict with Thanos was 'it' and they could just do well with whatever they dish out since it's a part of the brand and it'll do well, which the results speak for themselves.

Carycomic said...

Tobor's right. The implication in the sneaky epilogue of "...Quantumania" indicates that the next phase of Marvel Films will involve a civil war between counterpart Kangs. So, why couldn't that have a ripple effect of introducing a new, slightly younger version of Tony Stark?

Re: today's cover? I love it! :-) Plain and simple as that. In fact, one might even be tempted to say I love it for its... "Stark" simplicity.

Anonymous said...

You need to chill out with the puns, Cary.

Glenn said...

Frankly for amount of money Robert Downey Jr. is making any movie he is it needs to be a blockbuster. They have already eliminated Jarvis AI to make the Vision who they destroyed so next iteration of Robert Downey Jr. should be an AI. They could go with him as AI for Iron Heart but more long term solution would be a Tony Stark Jr. either thru a villain clone, unknown son per Pepper or an alternate universe Tony Stark. The latter is how we got a 2nd Spider Man for animation.

Bob Greenwade said...

We may get alternate Tony Starks, and alternates (new and old) of other deceased MCU characters, but I'm pretty sure that everyone who's dead will stay dead (despite the source material). Any such appearances will be as secondary to the main plot as Tony was for Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Someone on The Platform Formerly Known As Twitter recently posted the lowest-rated post-Endgame MCU projects per Rotten Tomatoes: The Marvels (not even out yet! I'm seeing it tonight), Eternals (definitely unfairly maligned), Secret Invasion (incredible for one of the most emotionally compelling TV shows I've ever seen), and Ant-Man & the Wasp: Quantumania (which, to be fair, belongs at the bottom despite being a fun watch).

Whether Marvel does three or four movies a year, or however many TV shows, is secondary to how their stories fit into the overall saga, and how well their stories are told.

As for today's cover, this is an interesting match-up. Iron Man and Ice have neither parallels nor contrasts that would suggest it, but it still seems to make sense.

Carycomic said...

@Bob Greenwade: ETERNALS is undeniably justly maligned.

@Anon848: In the immortal words of Hall and Oates? "No can do." :-)

Bob Greenwade said...

@Cary: I'll deny it.

Anonymous said...

Gotta concur with Cary.

Anonymous said...

Cary, I thought you were going to go, "I gotta strike while the Iron's hot, or not in this case"

Still good though.

Carycomic said...

Thank you, Anon135. :-)

But, speaking of "hot"...

Dear Ross: how about a shipper cover featuring Killer Frost and Pyro (of the Mass. Academy Hellions) for Valentine's Day 2024? I mean, she keeps alive by draining body heat, right? And opposites do attract, etc. etc.

Anonymous said...

Killer Frost got along very well with the 1980 Cheetah (DC version) in the SSSV battle with the JLA & JSA. I wonder how she'd do with Marvel's male Cheetah foe?

I think they'd make an interesting pairing for a couple of heroes.

Maybe Fire & Tigra? Fire was close pals with Ice in the 80s.

Anonymous said...

I can just picture Sinjin Allardyce and Esteban Caracus fighting over KF's affections?

Carycomic said...

@Anon957: you mean, like Wonder Woman and Batgirl once played tug-of-war over Batman?

Anonymous said...

If Icemaiden and Killer Frost have become enemies, does this mean the Ice Masters are permanently finished as a Rossverse super-group?

:-(

Carycomic said...

@Anon852: Ross only knows.

Mr.Zone1 said...

How about getting Killer Frost meet Iceman and Firestar, and Fire and Ice and Firestorm, if you have not done that already
Thanks

Anonymous said...

@Mr.Zone1: Ross appears to be cold to that idea.

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