Wednesday, June 26, 2019

Justice Society of America and Thor



Some have expressed disappointment that DC's trinity will not be a part of the JSA when it returns DC continuity, as it will be the post-Crisis version that existed on the same Earth as the JLA, just in an earlier decade.  Batman and Superman weren't heavily involved in the original All-Star Comics series, so I can live with that, even though I like them on the team.  Wonder Woman on the other hand was in a lot of adventures so I hope they find a way to include her.  John Byrne's solution of having Hyppolita as the WW of the JSA worked for me, so I hope that will be the case again. 

16 comments:

det_Tobor said...

A pure fun cover, putting us at where some of the action has already occurred.

It also brings up a question I never thought about before. Will Plasticman grow old or stay like Superman and Wonder Woman? DC keeps changing their time of working so I never wondered about Plas. Having him in the JSA made me relook at his FULL timeline.

det_Tobor said...

Ross, a strange idea came to me. In light of Zero Hour, where Superman met so many variations of Batman....
Cover: in the middle of a open carnival scene area, coming from different directions, the couples of Superman & Wonder Woman, Batman & Wonder Woman, and Captain America & Wonder Woman. All 6 are real, with shock on all their faces.
"Cupid's triple play!".

Simreeve said...

Fun cover!
Did you add Plas to the JSA here, or was he actually in whatever you used as the original artwork?

det_Tobor said...
"It also brings up a question I never thought about before. Will Plasticman grow old or stay like Superman and Wonder Woman? DC keeps changing their time of working so I never wondered about Plas. Having him in the JSA made me relook at his FULL timeline."
At one stage there was a version of Plas who'd only undergone his origin [post-Flashoint] during the 'Forever Evil' storyline... and that might have been the one who went through 'Metal' & into 'The Terrifics'. However the recent limited series reintroduced his son Luke, who'd been part of the JLA-member Plas's continuity and so that might be the version of him whom they're now using: i think that his Golden Age history has been removed from continuity, or at least has been relegated to the current counterpart of 'Earth-X'.
And I suspect that the Plastic Man who had his own series briefly in the 1960s, with another short run in the early '70s, was actually an 'Earth-12' version instead.

Carycomic said...

There's only one way to confirm or deny that Thor is telling the truth. Have WW encircle Superman with the magic Lasso of Truth. Even the Asgardian Prince of Lies can't withstand its power!

Unless, of course, he's a religious fanatic...like that Islamic version of the Dalai Lama the JLA once faced.

Glenn said...

Why do people assume it is Superman rather than Plastic Man who is Loki?

Loki being Plastic Man makes more sense.

Bob Greenwade said...

Glenn: Thor appears to be gesturing toward Superman, so the assumption is that he sees Superman as Loki. Personally, I think that's just a pleading gesture in response to Superman's apparent reaction (Batman seems to be trying to calm him as well). Thor is the only one who can see Loki, at exactly the midpoint between him and Batman. The question is, is Loki really there, invisible to all but his brother, or has he simply placed a hallucination into Thor's mind?

(Aside: There's something strange about Hawkman in this art -- the motion lines don't seem to go with his pose. I assume that's a feature of the original work, but I'd be interested in knowing the context and/or reasoning behind what's going on there.)

As to Wonder Woman in the original JSA as well as having modern-day adventures, I think it makes some sense that the same character could do both. The Lynda Carter TV series gave a reasonable justification for Diana Prince being a namesake lookalike relative in both the 1940s and the 1970s.

Also, I think it's been established that Plastic Man is effectively immortal. Wasn't there something a few years ago where he lay at the bottom of the ocean for 10,000 years? Or was that written out of continuity?

Tobor's suggestion made me think of a possible cover featuring multiple versions of both Spider-Man (a Spider-Verse sort of thing) and Batman (including the Tangent and Just Imagine versions). They could be brought together by someone like the Monitor, the Grandmaster, or even Access.

Anonymous said...

How about "a story" where the titular characters of "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi" go to El Tigre's Miracle City to retrieve Frida Suarez, who turns out to be their lost sister (and maybe even put in George of the Jungle knockoff Ed, who was a major character in Jungle Prom, a HHPAY episode that had at least one credited person who worked both on that and on "El Tigre"...; there's even a picture on deviantart.com by artist "generationm" that show's Manny and Frida as Ami and Yumi (oddly) respectively.

Anonymous said...

If they are reincluding the JSA to DC Continuity, do you know if they are also including the All-Star Squadron? I rather enjoyed that series and the fact that re-introduced people to a lot of forgotten characters from the 1940's.
Ordinaryguy2

Ross said...

Simreeve,

Plas was there as part of the All-Star Squadron tale that the splash is from.

Simreeve said...

ore sense.

Bob Greenwade said...
"Also, I think it's been established that Plastic Man is effectively immortal. Wasn't there something a few years ago where he lay at the bottom of the ocean for 10,000 years? Or was that written out of continuity?"
It was written-out as a result of 'Flashpoint', with the "new" Justice League line-up (with Cyborg as a founder) as that team's only line-up -- apart from the possibility that J'onn had been an early member, but had erased this fact from everybody's memories when he left -- until DC started publishing new stories that added people later on.
Whether it's back in continuity after rebirth, and especially after 'Superman Reborn' merged the conflicting histories to some extent might not yet have been clarified... but that story was from the same series that gave him a son named Luke, and Luke was in Plas's recent limited series so if that is taken as canon rather than an just as 'imaginary story' or 'elseworlds'then maybe...

Ross said...
"Simreeve,

Plas was there as part of the All-Star Squadron tale that the splash is from."

Thank you. I'd though that twas probably the only likely source, but -- although a long-time fan of the All-Star Squadron -- ouldn't actually remember having seen it before.

tpairan said...

I preferred Miss America taking Wonder Woman's place in the JSA. The Hippolyte thing just didn't work for me.

Carycomic said...
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Carycomic said...

@Bob Greenwade: how about Lynda Carter's WW being the daughter and only child of pre-TBAA Roma Downey's Hippolyta and Kevin Sorob's Hercules? With the latter, in turn, being the paternal grandson of Goa'uld System Lord Cronos!

Anonymous said...

@Carycomic: I second that emotion.

Cavillier1970 said...

I think this from All-Star Squadron where they were facing a Nazi-loyal Marvel Family, and the panel was with Mary & Jr in the center when they changed but before Nazi science separated the heroes from Mary Batson & Freddy. The team is the line-up

Cavillier1970 said...

I'm leaning towards Loki being Plas in this story, would make sense since he's the trickster/liar god and Plas loves playing jokes.

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