I remember loving the first Secret Wars mini-series, but it did have one glaring flaw. If this was really supposed to be a team up of all of Marvel's big stars, I think that Daredevil should have been included. Probably Power Man and Iron Fist as well, but definitely DD. It was just as big an omission as when Hal Jordan was completely left out of Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Unfortunately, Ross, I think it can be all too safely assumed that neither DC nor Marvel are mentally kicking their keesters out of 20/20 hindsight over those omissions.
ReplyDeleteMore's the pity.
For some reason, Saturn Girl staring at DD through the bars of a cage reminds me of Debbie Wong and Larry Hagman from part 3 of "Genie, Genie, Who's Got The Genie?" on IDOJ.
ReplyDeleteLol!
I love it.
ReplyDeleteMatt Murdock is now a member of a "behind-bars" association.
ReplyDeleteWith a large Earth in the background (but where are the clouds?), I assume this scene takes place on the Moon.
ReplyDeleteSo, how are DD, Saturn Girl, and Star Boy breathing?
I guess they're all standing (or sitting) under some sort of invisible dome which contains air and protects against radiation, and extremes of heat and cold?
A well-used trope in Legion comics was the trans-suit developed by Brainiac 5. It allows survival in space / harsh conditions to those Legionnaires that don’t have the ability to survive themselves.
DeleteWhat it really did was allow the Legion artists to draw the characters flying through space in costume, rather than having to draw them in space suits as had been done in earlier adventures.
The LSH may have had an extra hanging around for Matty.
Kid C: They're probably in the Blue Area, where the Watcher keeps his domain.
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ReplyDeleteWell, just between this past year and a few months back, Marvel rectified this ‘oversight’ by including Daredevil (along with the characters who had European-exclusive Secret Wars figures) in a new Secret Wars miniseries that takes place between the events of the original’s last two issues.
ReplyDeleteThe superhero trial and sentence theme cover makes for a good grabber Ross. But, OOPS: I didn't even notice that DD and Hal Jordan had been left out those series you mentioned. The editors at the time could have made ominous, cosmic rationalizations on why these characters had been left out. But with the plots being jammed-packed with crowds of heroes already, it was probably just due to good old-fashioned human error.
ReplyDeletePerhaps later on, some of those omissions could be worked into more interesting scenarios, like what Ross has here. I always found superheroes acting as self-appointed judges and jailers pretty chilling. As Anonymous 10:11 AM pointed out, some of their incarceration facilities were almost laughable, except for the grueling sentences that the accused were expected to endure. No defense counsel or appeals? Anon 10:36 noted that this "hole" with Daredevil had been patched to a degree, but I'd still like to see how Ross would follow up on this. But for now, as Judge Stone would say, "That's recess everybody!"
Didn't I hear that Hal had temporarily quit as Green Lantern while the Crisis was going on? Wasn't that the reason why?
ReplyDeleteInteresting combo again. DD looks set up for a long stay. The Legionnaires have given him food, water and...books. OK, the necessities of life. But which books? And why no comics?
ReplyDelete@Ken Roskos: Doc Savage was arguably the worst offender. "Corrective" brain surgey at his College of Crime Prevention (or whatever he called it)!
ReplyDeleteAnd no one points out the irony of giving DD books. (OK, I know he can actually feel the print on the page, but still......)
ReplyDeleteMarvel could have felt DD wasn't big enough to use on a Cosmic level at the time.
ReplyDeleteHave him protect the state of NY. Good luck with that.
But the Legion know time gets altered. I don't think they would make Matt sit out the time involved just to make their history "proper".
Superboy tried to save Lincoln was being killed only to be thwarted i think by Lex.
Tobor's right. Daredevil guest-starred in Giant-Size Defenders #3 (1974) which depicted a chess match between the Grandmaster and the robotic Prime Mover. With Daredevil getting fatally par-boiled by a red-eyed space amoeba! Of course, all deaths were chronologically reversed when the Grandmaster won. But, even so, what the writers and artists depicted must not have sat well with Stan Lee all the way up to Secret Wars v.1/#1.
ReplyDelete@Emsley Wyatt: I'm sure Superboy and Saturn Girl arranged for the synthesized books to be in Braille. In any case, he should be glad I wasn't the artist responsible for the original panel. I probably would've been unable to resist something a little more provocative!
ReplyDeleteLike, say, Hornhead bound-and-gagged and at the mercy of a pair of stage magician sisters. ;-)
Anon @ 8 PM: Some men would consider that scenario of yours a reward, rather than a punishment.
ReplyDeleteI know I would! ;-D
ReplyDeleteD'oh, I can't resist poking this bear, but getting back to emsley wyatt's point about the "mini-library" in Daredevil's cage. Did the Legion somehow learn that DD's hyper-senses make up for his lack of sight? Whether or not the Legion is aware of his blindness, giving Murdock access to books still seems to be a particularly subtle form of maltreatment indeed. Of course, this could all simply be a ruse to snare the Legion's real suspect. That's a real stretch, I'll admit.
ReplyDeleteBut since the Legion has the advantage here, I'll accept the premise that they're from a retro-future where their records can give them the dirt on almost anyone. And instant outer-space life-support protection is as common as air-conditioning, or picking up an umbrella at least. "Just don't track that moon dust into the house kids."
And in spite of all their advanced tech, the Legion's little prison still appears to be lacking a few other basic amenities as well. ;) There's no intergalactic ACLU or cosmic Amnesty International Murdock can call on?
@ Davejonz - And no internet either. Definitely cruel and unusual punishment!
@ Anon 12:45 PM March 30th - Ooch! Yes, I forgot about that.
@ Anon 8:00 PM March 30th - A pair of stage magician sisters? Whoa.
@Ken Roskos: I'll make a confession. I was reading a trade paperback of Mary Worth reprints. And I was particularly attracted to a story arc surrounding Poppi and Bobbi Baffle. Fraternal twin magicians!
ReplyDeleteThe installment that featured their on-stage act made me think of Daredevil's one-time run-in with Willow the Phantasmagorical. The rest came out of my prurient imagination.
There's an idea for a crossover: Batman and Mary Worth. Not only were they both drawn by Joe Giella, but if Mary married Alfred, she'd become Mary Pennyworth!
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ReplyDeleteDear Ross: you've been able to use image captures from Mandrake the Magician, the Phantom, even Calvin & Hobbes. Is there any chance we could one day see Spidey meet Judge Parker?
If not, I'd settle for Judge Dredd meeting Spider-man 2099.
Why not? She's already canonically met Lee Falk's Phantom.
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