Monday, March 4, 2019

Superman Vs. The Kingpin



Marvel can't use any of the characters that were on the Netflix shows for 2 years following their cancellation, so it will be a while before we hear anything about them joining the MCU.  It will be tough to top Vincent D'Onofrio as The Kingpin, but I would still like to see yhe character on the big screen again.  As a kid, I always saw him equally as a villain for Spider-Man as he was with Daredevil, so a movie featuring all three would seem like a natural way to go.

Regular blog followers will know that Superman has been at odds with The Kingpin since he was Superboy...

23 comments:

  1. Holy Gherkins, Batman! Superman's in a pickle!


    Sorry; I just can't resist greenery puns. ;-)

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  2. Maybe Lex Luthor (the capitalist) could meet the Kingpin. They are kind of similar.

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  3. Seeing this reminded me that years ago when DC and Marvel did their Amalgam series, I had thought that Luthor and Kingpin should have been amalgamized. Kingpin seemed to fit more with the post-crisis Lex Luthor than the Red Skull who they ended up using. Anyone else have that thought?
    Ordinaryguy2

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  4. They probably decided against that due to how fat Luthor looked in a purple tuxedo. When he was depicted as the Joker (opposite Kal-El as the Batman!) in that now-classic Elseworlds tale where the latter was found and adopted by the Waynes.

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  5. Vincent has said that he'd be very interested in playing the Kingpin in a future Spider-Man movie. The two years will be up by the time the third film comes around, so that could happen either with that or the fourth if there is one.

    Interestingly, the two-year waiting period only applies to the four who were part of the Defenders mini-series and their associated supporting cast; the Punisher isn't subject to it, so John Bernthal could go straight to the big screen, Hulu, or wherever else Disney wants to put him.

    Anonymous #1: I've seen that suggested before, and even put it forth myself. They seem so similar that they'd probably hate each other; I'm sure Fisk would fire the first shot in an ongoing feud that would make for an impressive series of team-ups of Superman with Spidey and/or Daredevil.

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  6. As Blue & Gold would say: BWA-HA-HA-HA!!

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  7. Have Box (Logan's Run Marvel) Fight Box (Alpha Flight Marvel) over the Lemarchand Box (Hellraiser Marvel) at Jack In The Box ("...Pack Up The Kids Crank Up The Car..." - Sung by Rodney Allen Ripey): Tonights Episode All Boxed In. MARVEL Explore Your Universe (IMMWAOO the Best Marvel Motto Ever!)

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  8. @Brother Barnes: 2nd only to "EXCELSIOR!"

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  9. Hm. I don't know why the system did that... Anonymous #3 above was Yours Truly.

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  10. Backing up a bit here: The reason Luthor and Red Skull were combined (into Green Skull) was because they are, respectively, the greatest foes of Superman and Captain America, who had been combined into Super-Soldier.

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  11. So the Kingpin most likely is the one who hired Bullseye and put the contract out on Black Canary...

    JLA watch out!

    By the way, superheroes (especially the vigilantes) are really, really stupid. They should have a grace period in their code of ethics. In other words, if I help put the Joker in the slammer 10 times, the 11th time he's not going to live to see the slammer again. Period. He's dead. I would be like Elliot Ness from the Untouchables and run Arkham Asylum out of business.

    Many of the villains from Gotham alone have murder raps a mile long or more and all they get are life sentences. Has there ever been a super villain in comic history to get the electric chair or the gas chamber or the needle???

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  12. great cover, per usual Ross....
    here's a thought, how about the live action Kingpin (from Netflix) and Tobias Whale (from CW's Black Lightning)...
    what do you think???

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  13. Capital punishment is reserved only for those murderers who are deemed mentally competent to stand trial. The criminally insane therefore fall in the opposite category. Thus, to execute them would fall under the constitutional definition of "cruel and unusual punishment." Hence, Charles Manson dying of old age in prison!

    My guess is, where there's life, there's supposed to be hope for their eventual rehab. Even if there's only a 1% chance for that! Because, after all, 1% is still a greater number than zero.

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  14. The Joker actually was executed once, back in the Golden Age, but he'd arranged for his gang to steal the body (possibly with the execution itself having been rigged to be less lethal than intended?) and revive him...

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  15. @my namesake: most superheroes are obviously believers in the Nietzschean philosophy that one should be careful NOT to become a worse monster than those one fights! Which is why Batman, for example, is a much better Good Guy than the Punisher. Because if the former were more like the latter?

    Frank Castle would never have walked out of that alley alive, way back in the second DC/Marvel crossover featuring those two!

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  16. @ Cary

    Charles Manson never escaped prison for the nth time to continue on a serial killing rampage, either. I'm quite positive that if these fictional villains existed today they wouldn't have to worry about capital punishment. There would be other means to do away with them once they hit the streets again. Shoot on sight by US Marshals, my friend, DEAD or ALIVE. They would be tracked down in masses, not waiting on Batman.

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  17. >>>> most superheroes are obviously believers in the Nietzschean philosophy that one should be careful NOT to become a worse monster than those one fights! Which is why Batman, for example, is a much better Good Guy than the Punisher. Because if the former were more like the latter? >>>>

    Actually, that philosophy is the only way publishers (DC & Marvel) could continue to sell comics. Kill off the popular villains, and what else is there left?

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  18. @Wildcat: An unwanted resurgence in horror comics.

    @Anonymous: that's not a solution. That's a PURGE-style furtherance of the problem!

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  19. @ Cary

    We can agree to disagree. The protection and preservation of human innocent lives from physical harm come first (including babies) or morality is inherently meaningless. I'm not a humanist nor nihilist, but I do recognize that many popular sci-fi writers are and they share and promote the philosophy you side with in their stories. :)

    If the Arkham Asylum was any part of reality (which, thankfully, it's not), it would be condemned as a failed institution. Whenever a serial killer escapes multiple times, then it becomes blood on the hands of the institution itself, imho.

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  20. Which is probably why it gets increasingly super-maxed.

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  21. @Anon535: In the sense that I disagree you're right, and you disagree that you're undeniably 100% dead wrong? Yeah, I can live with that.

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  22. @ Cary

    If that's what you get out of that, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension. LOL

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  23. Perdedores! Ustedes dos!

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